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The factors; hazards and benefits, of keeping and of removing horns on  goats.      by ERIC LEE DICKERSON

Overview:
Everything in life is a risk /  benefit  analysis and we all have to do our own analysis. However, I have never found a  full discussion about horns in any of  my reading on goats. I hope to  present  here the facts and experiences on the subject of keeping or removing horns on  goats from my research (online, in books and from other goat owners) and the experience of myself and other goat keepers. I compiled a different version of  this analysis covering both sides of the issue. I am decidedly pro-horns, and  was asked by Kalispell Kinders and More to present the "pro-horn" side of this  issue for their blog. Briefly, about me, so you  know that kind of guy you are  talking to… I love animals of all shapes and  sizes, domesticated and wild. I  have been described as "having a way with animals", "being a whisperer", etc.  While those are nice compliments, I don't  see it that way  exactly, I do not  consider myself to be a whisperer, or to have some special supernatural  connection to them. I just try to see it from  the animals perspective, interact  with them in a predictable manner that they understand. I try to bring calm  confidence to the interaction whenever possible. The fact that I am an animal  lover  should not lead you to believe that I am a vegetarian, or that I do  not  cull, harvest or kill my animals. I do. For meat for my family,  to "put them  down", etc. I am not much of a hunter, though I am a fisherman. I am not a vet,  nor do I have any formal training in animal husbandry, though I have worked on  ranches and/or owned livestock  in one form or another for most of my adult life.  I am (at the time of writing this) 35 years old and living on a 5 acre homestead  in Northern California.
Preface Notes:
What follows is what I have learned over the years from my reading and  talking with other goat keepers. I run a mixed (horned and not horned) herd, currently I have 10 with horns and 5 without horns. I regularly work with a herd  of 20 (+/-) goats without horns and a 30(+/-) herd that is all horned.

When I give my opinion below, I say "in my opinion" or "My 
 Opinion:", when I draw on my personal experience I say; "from my experience" or  "My Experience". Other wise I believe the rest to be accepted facts. 

I  have broken this analysis into sections that I call "The
Factors to Consider".  These are the different categories of concern or consideration in disbudding or  leaving horns. Each Factor (below) is discussed  in detail by begin broken down  into different aspects of that factor. At the end of each I offer my perspective  on that particular aspect. At the end of the
discussion on each factor, I give a  summary in my opinion of that
factor.

The Exceptions:
**To show  Dairy goats in a ADGA show you must (as far as I know) disbud. Also all (as far  as I know) 4H  goats, must be disbuded.
**To show meat goats it is optional, but  most meat goat judges (as far as I know) prefer horns. 
**To show Dairy goats in a IDGR show you may have horns or not, but horns are  judged and hornless goats have points deducted.

The Factors to Consider:
The decision making factors for keeping or  removing horns (in order of most handlers importance in my opinion):
1) Goat Safety
2) Handler Safety

3) Goat Health
4) Goat Kid Trauma
5) Goat Re-sale
6)  Horn Utility
7) Horn Beauty

1) Goat Safety  
A) Goat to Goat Interaction All goats (with horns or not)  head-butt for play and for confrontation. There are three main ways goats use  their horns naturally; A) Butting horns to horns (standing up, banging horns together, manipulating opponent by turning head with horns locked),
 B) Hooking: (usually after butting but sometimes not; poking horns into head, neck, body of  opponent by turning head to side and bringing horns backward to make contact  with the point of a horn),
C) Side Swiping: (making contact with horns to the side of an opponent, usually not standing up before hand).

The only one  of these three methods that disbudded goats will not do is hooking. Hooking is possibly the most dangerous to other goats (and humans, covered below) and can result in
puncture wounds, torn udders, etc. if they are truly fighting, or in 
the rare accidental serious injury while sparing. Most goats know each others sparing limits and are not "out-for-blood". That being said accidents happen and  goats can be hurt in sparing. If goats are truly fighting with one another  beyond the expected; in the first few weeks of new goats being introduced to the  herd while they establish the hierarchy, they should be separated if they have  horns or not.

The benefit of horns in Goat to Goat interaction is that  horns serve to align the head properly and then act as shock absorbers,
  transferring the energy from a head butt's impact from the horns to the skull, then the spine and then the rest of the body in the correct way. Without horns, a goat is missing the primary element of that system. Thus, the head may not align correctly and the resulting shock to the head, and especially, to the neck  / spine is greater.

Goats are more likely to use their heads / horns in  an aggressive manner in the following situations; fighting for mating rights  (bucks), fighting for food, fighting for space (limited dry space in
rain,  preferred sleeping spot, etc), and to establish herd hierarchy. Limiting these  conflict situations will result in less in-fighting in the herd. Keeping bucks  separate or keeping only bucks that get along together, feeding in separate  locations (as many as needed to prevent fighting), providing adequate space in  pastures, paddocks, pens / barns, introducing new goats to the herd in
open  space and only a few hours at a time, separating new goats at night, etc. all  will help to limit in-fighting in the herd.

In my experience: The  only goat I know of that was fatally injured by sparring or true fighting was a  buck belonging to a elderly goat keeper I worked for. The buck ended up being  euthanized after fracturing his neck by head butting with another buck he shared  a pen with. Both were disbudded bucks, and the two were not truly fighting, they  knew and liked each other, they had gotten along fine for almost a year in the  same pen, they were just sparring and one got the angle a little wrong. X-ray's  revealed a fractured and compacted vertebrae. Both vets on hand deduced it must  have been caused by head to head butting. The buck that had the misfortune of  getting the angle wrong was unable to walk for a week prior to  X-ray and  resulting euthanasia.

B) Goat to Predator Interaction: 
Simply,  goats use their horns as a last resort when cornered or physically  caught by a predator or when defending it's kids. It is their last line of  defense. In such cases a goat with horns has a
better chance of  survival.

In my experience: I know a goat brusher who had a mixed  herd of horned and disbudded goats that was attacked by a mountain lion or a few  coyotes. His analysis after the fact was that only 3 of 10 disbudded goats  survived with minor or no injury. While 15 of 20 horned goats survived with  minor or no injury. He lost 14 goats in 2 days, he thinks it was all in one  night, however at the time he was only checking on the goats every other day.  They did have a guardian animal on site, a llama, the keeper said it was the  last time he used a llama in deep woods. 

C) Horns tangled / caught:
Caught in fence; Goats will try to  reach food on the other side of a fence if they have horns or not. If you have  the right fence and / or if there is enough food on the side of the fence the  goats are on, they won't try to push their heads through it as much. Proper  fencing would have holes no larger than 3-4" square (for adult goats) or 2" squares or rectangles (for kids and adult goats) and can include, electric netting, no climb or hog / cattle panels. Fencing with smaller holes closer to the ground is better, especially for kids. 

Horns can become tangled /  caught up in fencing, the fork in a tree, feeders, etc. Anything that poses this  risk to goats should be avoided if possible. With the situation of goats getting  hung from fencing; if the fence is an appropriate height the goat will not  attempt to jump it, even if they do attempt to jump it (or any other
situation  where they could be hung feet off the ground from a fence) it takes some fancy  physics to get caught up, off the ground. The goat has to be in the air (feet  off ground), turn it's head into the fence, tangle it's horns sufficiently that  it can not free them, before the goat touches the ground again. Even then, the  in-tangling has to be so bad that a goat (quite agile) can not free it's self.  Furthermore, to prove to be fatal, this would have to
happen at night and / or  out of ear shot from humans (screaming goats are pretty loud). As for forks in  trees or other natural "hanging" hazards, this can occur when the goat gets it's  horns between the fork of a tree and gets stuck. Again doing so to a degree that  prevents the goat from being able to get out has to be fairly rare (my opinion).  With both situations, it is just as
feasible (in my opinion) that a disbudded  goats would get into this situation. Disbudded goats could jump up and get their  head stuck in a fence and hang, or get their neck stuck in the fork of a  tree.

One exception to all of the above would be young goats with horns,  they can certainly fit through smaller holes (smaller than 3" square) and since  the horns are not very broad or have not curled back yet, they can easily go  forward though a hole that they can not go backward through.

My  experience: My horned goats have never gotten caught up in fence (other than  an electric netting that was not on). My
horned goats put their noses through  the fence and grab a bite. However, my disbudded goats will put their heads  through and will push on the fence like they are in a draft harness trying to  reach the furthest blade of grass. My disbudded goats have stretched several  sections of fence out doing this.  

I have had one goat, a year old doe, who while browsing, had her front feet  against a tree trunk, with her head  just above a fork (a "V") in a tree that  was about 3 ft off the ground. She either slipped off the tree trunk or let  herself off the trunk and trapped her head (at the neck, just behind the jaw  bone) in the fork of the tree. She could not stand on anything or get an angle  to free herself. She FREAKED out, screaming, as I arrived I could see that she  was trapped but not strangling due to the deep fork in the tree her
airway was  not blocked. I stopped for a second to observe the situation before helping her.  I wanted to see if her horns contributed to this situation. What I noticed was  that she likely would have gotten into this situation with or without horns.  However her horns may have been preventing her from being able
to free herself  in one direction because of a branch. I picked her up an inch or so and with the  weight off her neck she was able to free herself.
 
In addition, I have recently had perfect example of improper fencing on my  own property. We moved our browsing herd to a new area that was partially field fencing and partially temporary electric netting fencing. We had a length of electrical netting that was not in use and we ran it along the outside (to the goats) of the field fencing. This created (from the goats perspective) a layer 
 of field fencing with 4" holes nearest them, with a layer of electrical netting beyond it. Unfortunately the electrical netting was not charged, it was just  being stored there until it was needed on the next browsing area. A 3 month old male (destined for the freezer in 6-9 months) was browsing through this section of the fence, he stuck his head through both fences and then (from what I can tell) he pulled his head and a piece of the electrical fencing out through the field fencing hole. This created a situation where he had the nylon twine of the  electrical fencing around his neck and he was up against the field fence. In his  struggling he twisted the twine slowly tightening it around his neck and eventually strangled himself. This goat did have small horns (about an inch   long) I am not sure that having horns contributed to his death, but I think it is very likely. That being said the situation could have happened to a goat without horns, the problem was with having an electric netting fence that was not on… that was a stupid mistake on my part. 

Goat Safety ConclusionIt is my opinion that for Goat Safety, goats are actually safer with horns than without. If this were not true then nature would have eliminated horns long  ago. I feel this is especially true for goats who head butt for play or confrontation. The MAJOR caveat of this would be that fencing is appropriate for goats with horns. Kids with horns are especially a risk, they are just learning about having horns and their horns are small enough to fit through smaller fence holes but then not be able to pull out. That being said,  hard wire field fencing or panels are more of a trapping / injury hazard, where flexible or nylon wire fencing can be a strangulation hazard.  

2) Handler Safety:
A) Goat Head butting Handlers:
Goat's  will head butt, they will do it to each other in play and in conflict. They will  do it to you in play or in conflict if you  don't train them not to. The idea  that goats do not butt if they do not have  horns is incorrect, I have never herd  of, or known a goat that did not head  butt to some degree. If you have a goat  who head butts people in an aggressive
way, it's dangerous with horns or without  and the goat should be trained not to do so or otherwise dealt with. It is  unadvisable to turn your back to a goat (especially a buck) that you do not  know. It is furtherly unadvisable to be down on your knees or crouched  (especially with your back to the goat). And the worst practice is to be down on  knees or hands and knees and lower your head
toward a goat, this identically  mimics goat head butting behavior. One story I have herd was a handler on the  opposite side of the goat fence on their hands and knees securing fencing to a  bottom wire. They were repeatedly moving away from the fence (to cut a piece of  wire) and then toward the fence (to secure the wire to fence). A disbudded  wether came over and was investigating what
they were doing for a few minutes.  The person turned to secure the next piece of wire and saw the goat coming down  from standing on his hind legs and *POW*. When the person woke up the wether was  lying a few feet away chewing his cud.

My experience: The idea that a head butt from a goat without horns hurts you less than a goat with horns is not my experience. Goats have some of the hardest heads on the planet, horns or not. I've been head butted by my fair share of goats, ones with horns and disbudded ones, in my opinion, the impact is the same, only 
 difference with horns is as follows: young goats who's horns still point out (have not grown enough to curl back yet) can stab when butting, on bare skin horns some times scratch (however, disbudded goats with scurs are  UCH more dangerous than horns, they can be like knifes (see scurs below)). I have worked with horned and un-horned bucks that did not want to be  caught or handled and it was basically a battle. In that situation, I would   rather be up against a buck with horns, so I can grab the horns at their base and control them from the front or deflect the impact by pushing the horns to the side. (see horn utility below)

B) Goats Hooking or Horns stabbing handlersAny goat who hooks humans (and even other goats in excess) in an aggressive manner is dangerous and should be trained not to do so or 
otherwise dealt with. There is a risk that horns could stab handlers in some  situations. Of particular concern is any situation where a handlers extremities  could become pinned between the pointed part of the horn and a hard surface. For  example, when you have a horned goat in a milking stand, your hand could be  stabbed by a horn up against the milking stand. Another concern is "poking an  eye out" there could be a situation where a handlers head is down
near a goats  horn and the horn goes into the eye. (see aspect C below for similar)

My experience: I train my goats not to pull out of the milking stand aggressively or quickly, I have never had any "near misses" or injuries from hooking or stabbing. I do not keep any goats that have any aggressive behaviors toward people, I do not tolerate goats who use hooking against other goats excessively.

C) Other horn to handler  contact: When in close contact with goats with horns there is inevitably some contact made with the horn to a shin or knee, or elbow, etc. Since these contacts normally don't have much, if any, force behind them. They are no more 
dangerous than getting hit by a disbudded goats head. In stories that I have herd, most goat to human contact is in this category, usually accidentally on the part of the goat or due to handler not paying attention. The blows are usually grazing or glancing blows from the hips to the shins. This is not to says that they do not hurt, they can hurt quite a bit, as can a glancing blow  from a disbudded goat. The worst situation is to have a grazing or glancing blow  like this from a goat with scurs (see below) which can be very sharp and add a  nice scratch or cut to the interaction.

My experience: The only  time I have been injured by a horn was once in the brush I had a doe come up to  me who had been shaking her head for a few days and I thought her ear might have  something in it or be infected etc. So I took a peak in her ear, she
stood  still, did not mind at all. Just then others in the herd got spooked and all  moved at once. She turned her head to see what was going on and hit my mouth  with the side of her horn. It bloodied my lip a bit, lesson learned, medical  exams take place in the milking stand. I get very close to my goats, I get down  on their level, they will approach me and touch their forehead to mine
(gently),  they will push their horns against my shins if they want my attention, etc. I  allow this and have not been injured by them else wise with horns or  not.

D) Goats and Children: 
Goats (and any other animal) can  be dangerous to children. No child should ever be around animals (especially  livestock) without supervision. Horns increase the danger for children in the  simple fact that they are not as soft as the rest of the goat and they are  pointed. That being said, a head butt is a head butt, horns or not.

My  experience: I have seen disbudded and horned goats butt children who were  with goats under supervision. In both cases
(different children) the butting was  light, testing where the child stood on the hierarchy. Both children reported  being hit in the stomach or chest and also reported that their bottom was "where  it hurt" (from falling on their butt). Since the last incident I now require  that any child under 5 or so, hold an adults hand or be carried when around  goats in open areas. 

Handler Safety Conclusion: It is my opinion that the majority of the dangers that handlers / humans face with goats are true for both horned and disbudded goats. Hooking / stabbing  is the only difference and I consider the likelihood of being injured in this  way to be rare. Exceptions to my conclusion would be in situations
where young  children will be handling the goats often. From a handler safety perspective, I  encourage you to look at the issue of horns from this perspective: Horses weigh  thousands of pounds, one miss-step and a handlers foot would be crushed, one  well placed kick and your broken or dead. Dogs and cats are predators, they are  fast, have sharp teeth and claws, an angry or scared dog or cat could hurt a  person in a matter of seconds (and they do). We
as owners of horses, dogs and  cats understand these risks, weigh them against the rewards and decide if this  animal is something we want. I don't keep horses who kick, period. I don't keep  dogs that bite, period. I have cats that scratch but I just leave those one's  alone, they eat the most mice. And I don't keep goats that are aggressive  towards humans, period. 
3) Goat Health:
A) Brain Damage:
 When you disbud a goat  kid you are putting an piece of metal heated to 1000+ degrees F just on the  other side of a fairly thin (at that age) skull of a week (+/-) old developing  brain. If it is done wrong (wrong spot or too long) it can cause  noticeable brain damage to goats. 

My opinion: I'm  not sure that a few seconds less, or 4 or 5 cm to the left or right is enough to  convince me that some damage is not occurring when disbudding is done properly,  the fact remains
that you are applying high heat to a not-yet fully developed  skull near a near a not-yet developed brain. For me this risk to the goat is not  worth the benefits of disbudding… to me. 

B) Temperature Regulation: Horns serve a health function in the  goat. They regulate their body temperature by circulating blood
thorough their  horns (specifically to cool themselves down). Without horns goats will rely more  on panting (like dogs do) to regulate their temperature. 

My  Experience: When comparing my horned goats to my disbudded ones, I notice  the disbudded ones, will pant
sooner and go into the shade more on hot  days.

C) Scurs: Definition: Scurs are horn growth that occurs  after
disbudding, bucks are particularly know to have scurs do to testosterone  and more aggressive horn growth. Scurs can result in horn growth that is sharp,  dangerous, un-sightly, or, in some cases, curl around and grows into the skull.  The solution is to cut scurs off with hoof trimers, or with bigger scurs a wire saw, which could lead to extensive bleeding.

My Experience: I have  been scratched many times and cut deeply once by scurs when handling disbudded  goats. I have trimmed scurs from goats that were growing into the skin, causing  infection. 

Goat Health Conclusion: It is my opinion that my stocks health will be better overall, the more natural it is. We have long hot summers (over 100 for 6-8 weeks a year) so temperature regulation is important to me. Risk of brain damage of any level is completely un-exceptable for me. Scurs in my opinion are more dangerous in most cases than horns.

4) Goat Kid Trauma:
Disbudidng is  unquestionably traumatic to goat kids (as is castration). In both situations, if  the handler-goat relationship is of value, a little work will need to be done to  rebuild the goats trust of the handler. In this section 

My  opinion: The less trauma my stock experiences by my hand, the better. I  emasculate (pinch/crush sperm delivery tube method of castration) my wethers but  that's about it. No bits in my horses
mouths, no shoes on my horses, etc. I work  really hard to build trusting relationships with my goats. I'm gentle and calm  around them, they are gentle and calm around me. I would want this if they had  horns or not. 

Summary of Goat Kid Trauma: It is my opinion that disbudding is the most traumatic thing you could do  to a goat. Furthermore, I feel it is more in-humane than branding (of horses / cattle, etc), tail / ear cropping (in some dogs) and de-clawing cats, since it is done to the skull, near the brain with VERY high heat, at a very young age. 

4) Goat Resale:
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airy goats  without horns  are easier to resell than dairy goats with horns. Most people don't want to  create a mixed herd of horned and disbudded goats. That being said I have sold  goats with horns to people who had disbudded goats. I have also given people  buying kids the option to have horns or not, shared with them this information,  allowed them to work with large
goats with large horns. About half of those who  were unsure of if they wanted horns or not went with horns after reading this  and working with horned goats. I think this is a perfect ratio.

Goat Resale Conclusion: If you plan to sell your goats take into consideration what the market   demands. I sell some kids, when I do I offer buyers the option and I will  disbud  for buyers. If I keep a kid, I do not disbud and I know that if I decide to sell  it at a later date, I will have to find a buyer who will take a horned goat.  

5) Horn Utility:
A) Scratching Themselves:
Goats use their horns to scratch
themselves.

My  experience: I notice my disbudded goats using fences, trees and buildings  more than my horned goats do for scratching
themselves. My horned goats still  use these things to scratch on, just less. 

B) Scoring tree  bark: Goats use horns to scratch against tree and bush trunks. This  behavior is either to loosen bark to eat or (in bucks primarily) to deposit  scent (from glands located on head) on
the tree (marking it).

C)  Browsing: Goats use their horns to pull down branches and push down  small trees and saplings. Horns are more effective for pushing down small trunks  than just the head since the trunk is trapped between the two  horns.

D) Handling goats by the horns:  DO NOT HANDLE
GOATS  BY HORNS UNLESS NO OTHER OPTION IS 
AVAILABLE! 
Horns can break and due to the  large number of blood vessels in horns, it can be a serious even fatal  situation. If you handle goats by the horns only apply pressure to the base,  closest to where the horn is attached to the skull, and even then only limited  pressure. Horns can be used without grasping to turn a goats head.

My experience: One buck that I work with is led from pen to truck and  truck to  doe by his horns, the handler stands with a leg on either side of the goat (he's  a Nig Dwarf) facing the same direction as the goat and the handler holds the  horns at the base. Handler and goat walk together. If the goat struggles or back  up, handler pushes goats head down so chin touches chest and goat submits. This  buck is very difficult to catch, but once caught, he handles
in this way very  well, I was nervous to do it the first time but after handling him this way I  prefer it to a mad buck on a leash / rope.

Horn Utility Conclusion:  It is my opinion that horns are useful and important to goats, I think if you could ask them, my disbudded stock would tell you they wish they had them   (especially when they were trying to move up in the hierarchy or scratch their own back). While I do not make a habit of handling my goats horns, I do it, and will continue to (carefully).

6) Horn Beauty:
I have not met  many people who think a disbudded goat is more beautiful than a horned goat of  similar appearance other wise. Admittedly this is a minor factor, but the fact  remains that people like to look at goats with horns. Not to mention that  watching them use their horns is interesting, entertaining and educational
as  well.

Horn Beauty Conclusion: For everyone it is obviously your own decision to make. Every situation is different and there are situations where I would recommend disbudding for safety  of goat and handler. For me, the benefits of keeping horns on my goats out-weigh  the hazards. There are no doubt some specific considerations that must be kept  in mind when keeping horned goats. 
Other Thoughts On Keeping Goats with Horns:
As far as safety for goats  and handlers, as a keeper of horses, I would say that horses pose more of a  threat to handlers than horned goats do, due to their size / weight. I have been  hurt by horses many more times and much more seriously than by
goats (not taking  into consideration actual riding of horses). A single mis-step by a horse, or a  malicious kick can break bones easily. A kick to the head can be fatal. I have a  hard time imagining a goat breaking bones or killing a handler in any situation.  Dogs can (and do) bite people, even their owners. I would rather go into a pen  with a horned goat I do not know, than
with a dog (of any size) that I do not  know. That being said, there are risks to working with horned goats that should  be taken into consideration by handlers. 

From the goats perspective, I  feel the trauma, risk of  brain damage, lack of horn utility and temperature  regulation are major
disadvantages to the goat. The risk of brain damage in  particular is one that I  am not willing to take for my stock. 

I feel  that both situations can work fine if handlers understand the risks associated  with either side of the argument and handlers manage those risks  properly.

I suppose we could put a warning label on horns like we do with  other dangerous things:  "Wear eye protection", "Contents Hot", "Don't use lawn  mower as hedge trimmer" etc. Many things in our lives have inherent dangers,  especially if our lives are lived on a farm or with livestock. 

I also  feel that disbudding came to us from larger scale dairy (likely cow dairy)  operations. Certainly homesteaders one hundred years ago did not disbud. Goat  shepards in other countries or continents (Turkey, Africa, etc) don't do this.  So, for me, it
falls into a category of "This is how they do it, so this is how  I do it",  similar to chemical fertilizers and pesticides. As an organic farmer,  I tend to question these kinds of things. 
 
America is one of the few places that disbudding is a common practice for dairy goats. In Europe horns are not only left on but they are part of breed  standards and they are part of the judged criteria at shows. Further some  European countries have banned disbudding (along with rubber band castration) because they are considered cruel. In addition the International Dairy Goat   Registry is attempting to discourage America dairy goat breeders to stop  disbudding their goats. Here is a link to an article on their site: http://idgr.info/index/articles/why-horns/ I did not
find this article until several years after I originally wrote my  observations and opinions about disbudding. Many of my points are shared in this  article, some are different. 

In summary, here are the key points they site in the article as to why all goats should have horns;

 1) Horns are ‘social’ organs; goats use them to re-establish the herd  ‘pecking order’, 
2) Horns are thermoregulatory organs, regulating the  temperature of the blood supply to the brain. 
3) Horns are a physical attribute  subject to selection in breeding and thus a judicable criteria in IDGR shows. 
4)  Horns serve as indicators of protein metabolism and general
feed-conversion  efficiency; the more massive the structure and the more and deeper the  corrugations, the better the goat may assimilate and utilize its feed. They also  indicate past experiences with serious illness. 
5) Horns indicate the age of an  animal; the ‘annual rings’ are usually easy to see. 
6) Horns are convenient  handles, enabling the herdsperson to control the goat’s head. 
7) There is in  dairy goat breeds a definite and established link between the incidence of  hornlessness and hermaphroditism.
8) Horns have some utility as weapons against  predators. 
9) Horns are useful ‘tools’ to goats. 
10) Horns are beautiful. 11)  Horns are useful as art or craft work after the goat dies or is harvested.

Keeping a herd that is mixed (horns and no horns):
I keep a  mixed herd and over-all it works for me fine. The only issues are with goat to  goat interactions. Goats with horns have
the upper hand due to their ability to  absorb shock better and the ability to hook. This results in my horned goats  being the alpha and in the upper  hierarchy. My disbudded goats quickly find  their place and I monitor the head butting carefully until everyone knows their  place and accepts it. I started with a mixed herd from day one, getting a horned  goat and a disbudded goat just a few days apart. Having managed this situation  from the start, I have adapted my handing and infrastructure to meet both  situations at once.

Since I work with larger herds of both varieties (one  all disbudded, and one all horned) I will say that I do not notice any more or  less fighting, in either herd. In the 2 years I have worked with both herds, the  only serious related injury to goat or handler was the above mentioned neck  fracture that happened
between two disbudded bucks. I do notice that horned  goats, especially male wethers, like to spare more than disbudded goats do. I  have two horned wethers who will have a sparring session once a day. Usually  they take turns, one rearing up and coming down on the other with all 4 hooves  on the ground, then they will switch roles. They will do this for hours  sometimes, never very hard (relatively, soft to goats is pretty hard to humans),  and when one walks away, the game is over.  

Conclusion on Keeping Goats with Horns:
1) Goats are naturally horned animals; the natural reasoning, benefit and utility of horns may never be fully understood or appreciated. I am content with  the fact that nature has reasons and I am not one to argue with nature when I  can help it. 
 
2) Disbudding can make goats more safe to be around in some cases, but more dangerous to handlers and other goats (scurs), and to themselves (neck/spine impact injuries) in other cases. This ends up being a fairly even trade off in my opinion, usually leaning toward disbudding being a disadvantage to goat and  handler.
 
3) Disbudding is unquestionably traumatic and potentially very harmful to goat kids. If done a little bit wrong, you end up with scurs or otherwise deformed horns. If done a more wrong, you could give mild or severe brain damage  to your goat.
 
4) Horns are useful to goats, handlers and are a useful aspect of goat meat  harvest and they are beautiful. Disbudding prevents all this utility and beauty from ever existing.
 
As many things in life, it is your choice to weigh the risks and benefits  and decide what is right for you and your family. At this point in the U.S. there are no laws preventing or requiring the disbudding of goats. If that law ever changes (as it has in some countries in Europe), I am certain that it would  be to ban disbudding, not to require it. Currently there is a culture and
a  standard of dairy goats being disbudded. I feel that those of us who do not wish  to disbud for whatever reason, should work to change that culture and make it  more common place for dairy goats to have horns. I have lost sales due to my goats having horns, but I accept that as the cost of doing what I feel is right for my stock. My goal is to provide logical and factual information on the 
 subject so others can make the choice that is right for their herd and their family.
 
Eric Lee Dickerson
ericleedickerson@me.com

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